Freakier Friday - Nostalgia Cupcakes Taste Pretty Great
Episode Summary:
Jaclynn jokes that the real reason we chose to cover Freakier Friday is because she was going to see it no matter what, but honestly we had a great time unpacking this box of "nostalgia cupcakes."
The entire episode and the film, itself, are also an active meditation on just how "meta" you can make a story without breaking the story's proverbial Easter eggs.
Once we got into it, we realized it's a story about empathy, grief, and growth, and on the technical story side, we had a serious discussion of when the rules of the world of a story matter and when they don't.
The episode's closing section, "Favorite Lines," is especially hilarious this week because this was one of the funniest films of the year.
CHAPTER TIME STAMPS & MUST-LISTEN MOMENTS:
00:00 - The Cold Open
00:21 - Why We Chose It, and Why Disney Made This Movie "Literally for Jaclynn"
01:44 - Old Guy Seeing The Film Alone In The Theater
02:40 - Robby Liked It?
03:11 - Jaclynn's Memory of the Original 2003 Film
04:50 - The Jane Goodall Theater Experience
07:46 - The Unkind Aging Jokes and Constant Yelling in the First Half
08:14 - Jamie Lee Curtis Deserves an Oscar and a Nobel Peace Prize
09:30 - The "Fantastic Four" Problem of Hitting Every Nostalgic Button
14:30 - Characters in Pain
17:30 - Real World Consequences of the Story & The Rules of the World
25:40 - The Almost Questionable Morality of the Story
28:00 - MUNA's Cameo
30:30 - Favorite Lines Sketch
31:40 - Favorite Lines
Key Credits & Facts: Freakier Friday (2025):
Director: Nisha Ganatra
Screenplay by: Jordan Weiss (Story by: Elyse Hollander, Jordan Weiss)
Based on: Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers (1972)
Cinematography: Matthew Clark
Producers: Kristin Burr, Andrew Gunn, Jamie Lee Curtis
Cast (Returning): Jamie Lee Curtis (Tess Coleman), Lindsay Lohan (Anna Coleman), Mark Harmon (Ryan), Chad Michael Murray (Jake), Rosalind Chao (Mama P), Stephen Tobolowsky (Mr. Elton Bates), Christina Vidal Mitchell (Maddie), Haley Hudson (Peg)
Cast (New to Franchise): Julia Butters (Harper Coleman), Sophia Hammons (Lily Reyes), Manny Jacinto (Eric Reyes), Maitreyi Ramakrishnan (Ella)
Notable Facts:
- Lohan's Return: The film marks Lindsay Lohan's first leading role in a wide theatrical release in 18 years.
- Curtis's Influence: The sequel was born out of Jamie Lee Curtis's own push to make the film after realizing the demand from fans while touring for the Halloween franchise.
- Casting Callbacks: Elaine Hendrix, who played the antagonist Meredith in The Parent Trap (1998), makes a cameo, reuniting her with Lindsay Lohan on screen.
- Box Office Success: The film achieved the biggest domestic opening for a live-action comedy in 2025.
- Veteran Comeback: It is Mark Harmon's first non-NCIS related role in a theatrically released film in over a decade.
Transcript
Before you even see the second scene, I'm
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:going to answer the question
and we're just going to see if I'm right.
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:Okay.
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:The answer to what you're about to say
is nostalgia and Easter egg.
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:But go on.
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:Like, what?
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:If you're me and I'm you?
Then who is that?
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:I'm Grandma, sweetheart.
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:Could you tell everybody
why we're watching this?
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:We mean you. Me?
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:Yeah, we went to it because I knew
I was going to go to a theater and see it.
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:And I was like.
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:Like,
I didn't mean to do it to you, Robby,
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:but I'm kind of excited to hear, like,
you're incredibly, like, articulate and
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:well thought brain applied to this movie.
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:And then I just wanted to see cool
like I wanted to drag coal to a theater
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:and make him talk about it in
his pretentious voice and using big words.
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:So the main thing I
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:was going to say about it is
it was literally made for me.
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:I like saw it in college and it was just
like, nice dolled up cupcake, right?
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:Like it's just like a bunch of little,
like, nostalgia cupcakes.
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:Hello, I'm Julia Child.
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:How about a neat little cake just for you?
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:For you. Alone.
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:And, like,
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:it was just made for me to drag my friends
to, like, they were like, you know what?
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:She doesn't care if it's going to be good.
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:She's going to go and she's
going to bring other people with her.
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:Like Disney achieved
the goal of the movie, which wasn't story.
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:But hazelnut cake, an upside down cake,
a gingerbread cake.
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:But like, they wanted to sell at least
three tickets per person and they did
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:like I did it.
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:We don't. Live in the same city and.
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:It's still right.
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:It was like it was a nostalgia cupcake.
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:It was. It was 12 nostalgia cupcakes.
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:Here's Johanna Kathleen who's going to
show us how to make her famous baby cakes.
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:In the audience.
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:Last night I was the only adult male over
50, like by myself.
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:I was sitting next to a couple
in their 20s, and then a woman by herself
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:who I think was in her 20s or 30s,
and I was just trying not to like, look.
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:And I'm taking notes. So like, I,
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:I just looked
I mean, I don't know what I look like.
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:I mean, we know what you look like.
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:Yeah.
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:I cannot believe that you put us through
that.
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:I truly, genuinely needed a shirt.
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:That said, Jaclynn and Ruby
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:are making me see this movie.
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:I do think maybe.
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:That's maybe those are shirts
we need for this.
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:The ticket taker was at least kind enough
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:not to look me in the eye.
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:The entire thing was rough.
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:I'm so glad to meet you guys. Go.
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:Well, I.
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:Got to meet you guys.
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:Go for a movie that frequently drove me
a little bit crazy
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:and in, in the sense making it scheme, it,
it was a very enjoyable.
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:It's a very enjoyable couple of hours
and it actually made me want to see
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:the movie that it was based off
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:to find out like as a,
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:as an exercise
and figuring out what I missed.
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:But I saw it when I was in college.
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:It reminded me of driving my like 1993
Mazda
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:miata to the theater with Karen before,
like a Karen was a Karen.
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:I was like 21.
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:We saw that like 11 p.m.
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:and I was definitely drunk.
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:And so I think so.
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:And then like the the song,
the song that like ends the whole thing
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:was like on my CD player
for like a year for sure.
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:Yeah. I like love the soundtrack.
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:I actually maybe even it was given to me
for my birthday, honestly, and I brought
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:a bunch of my guy friends to it
and we were like, all drinking.
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:It was fun,
but not because the movie was good.
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:It was fun because it was like
an experience of the time.
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:But in college, I sold cell phones and
it was like the best job on the planet.
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:And I worked at T-Mobile before
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:T-Mobile was T-Mobile, so I worked there
when it was voice dream wireless.
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:The most whenever minutes only from voice.
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:Stream.
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:And I worked in the mall
and I freaking loved it.
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:And our spokes person was Jamie
Lee Curtis.
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:Don't you just love waiting for the sun
to go down to use your wireless phone?
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:I mean, what could you possibly have
to say during the hours
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:you're actually awake?
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:And so it was like,
I drug like all of my, like, coworkers
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:and my friend
Karen, late to the movie theater.
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:So it was like Chris and Nate and Lance.
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:All of my.
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:Like, early ops spread my like, voice
stream wireless crew
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:and we all like, drove to the, you know,
like went to the movie theater together.
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:So I don't know, I've been thinking
a lot about, did I like this movie?
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:Did you watch it again after.
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:I've seen it, I've seen it,
I've seen a decent.
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:Yeah.
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:It's not it was a good movie,
but I also I'm so happy
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:to see Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay
Lohan fronting a movie I love.
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:Like a female driven bag that I like.
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:I'm not mad about it.
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:I'm not here to, like,
shame it. I'm glad it exists.
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:I'm glad I went.
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:What did you know going into Robbie?
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:So I knew the story.
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:Like I knew the original story
from the Jodie Foster version.
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:I knew that there was a movie,
a remake with Lindsay Lohan and.
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:And Jamie Lee Curtis,
and that's really all I knew about it.
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:And then this one, I knew that there were
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:four people changing bodies, and that's
the only thing I knew about this.
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:And I was like, okay,
how are they going to do that?
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:You know, like, you know,
I think I, Jane Goodall,
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:that I was like,
I wonder what I'm going to see.
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:Do you just compare yourself to Jane
Goodall?
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:Oh, I'm going, I'm going.
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:To the forest full of apes.
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:No, no, I used
I didn't go, I didn't go to the movie
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:theater
for nine days and observe people watching.
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:God. Oh my God.
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:Amazing.
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:Don't interfere.
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:Don't interfere with them. Be.
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:I mean, it was.
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:Kind of that kind of an experiment,
I feel like, for both of you.
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:Yeah, yeah.
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:It was. I'm in the.
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:Wilds with with that life.
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:I'm not familiar with it.
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:I have thoughts about the movie,
but it's interesting
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:that we're talking more
about the experience of the movie.
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:Yeah.
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:And the movie itself, because that's
really it's really important. Yes.
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:It's such an important part.
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:Like the best times I've ever had at the
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:theater have been for like, schlocky
movies.
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:The best time I ever had at the movies
was was seeing,
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:one of the Friday
the 13th movies in high school.
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:The packed theater.
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:Everyone knew what was going
on, and the audience was so vocal.
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:Yeah.
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:And it was just like,
you know, it ended up being con response.
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:And my friends and I were laughing and,
it was just, it was great.
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:And, and and everyone, everyone
last night, I mean, I kind want to
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:I don't want to seem humorless about it,
but everyone seemed to be
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:having a really good time.
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:And I wish we had had done it together.
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:Like we've never seen a movie together.
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:But there's a very few people
I like watching movies with,
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:but I love watching a movie with call.
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:Like it would have been really fun
a couple of years ago.
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:Call because you would have made
like a crafty cocktail.
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:We would have snuck it in a thermos.
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:We would.
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:Have.
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:Drinks together
and then like, been real snotty about it
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:and it would have been a blast
and you wouldn't have felt as creepy
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:because you would have just been like,
She's hear all the pressure, be relieved.
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:If you were there.
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:Yeah, even if we just.
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:But if we're like me and Robbie, people
would be like, oh, well, they're a couple.
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:Yeah, no big deal.
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:They're just.
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:They just don't wanna be at home together.
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:It actually kind of didn't work
as well as I think it wanted to.
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:I don't feel that old most of the time,
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:but this made me feel like a sad old lady
trying to relive the past.
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:Yeah, and there was a lot of really unkind
aging jokes.
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:I was surprised at
how kind of gross and mean it was, like,
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:I know that the whole thing is like,
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:they're these young women and they wake up
and like a mom and a grandma's body.
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:But I was still really surprised by in
:
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:Jamie Lee Curtis deserves some an Oscar
and a Nobel Peace
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:Prize for having a five minute scene
where the director had to be like,
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:so like the bit, it's just that
you're really old and it's disgusting.
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:And you have to say it about you.
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:Yeah, and you just have to do that
relentlessly. Closeup and.
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:In a close up.
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:And it's so frustrating
because she's so gorgeous.
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:There's also a lot of yelling.
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:I don't like anything that like
the conflict is totally just based on
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:everybody yelling at each other.
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:And I get it again, it's like moms
and daughters, generational differences,
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:but I like I got really
it was the first like half the movie.
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:Is everybody just yelling at each other
for like a feel good movie
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:that I'm just going to go eat popcorn
at 10 p.m.
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:on a Friday.
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:It was like, please, if I wanted this,
I would just.
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:You could live this. If you really wanted.
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:You could have gotten.
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:Like, I could do this for free.
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:Did you see the bloopers at the end?
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:I was I was cracking up in the bloopers
where I was not in in the movie.
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:Yeah. I mean, it's fun to make.
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:And I wish they'd brought all that joy
in, like, all of the cut
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:stuff was so much lighter,
so much funnier, so much more loving.
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:Oh, if this were
if the Joy ride editor added it.
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:This. Yeah,
this would be like vomit. Funny.
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:It would have been so fun.
It had so much fun.
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:And if it much like my comments
on the Fantastic Four, it
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:sort of like they're so busy
fitting it into this like template
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:and checking boxes
that they forgot to let the magic occur.
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:And it was like they were so busy
hitting every nostalgic button
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:that they, like, forgot to be like,
oh, maybe kids today don't.
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:They? Wouldn't feel so ugly.
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:They'd be like, oh my God, I'm like 70.
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:What are the things I could do?
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:I could go out and like,
I don't think any of those young women
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:who are gorgeous like the daughters,
I just don't believe that they would jump
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:in somebody's body and immediately
start picking those women apart.
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:Like they're just
that would just not happen.
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:And I bet, like,
the actors would've wanted that.
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:Like, I'm sure they didn't
go to the actors and be like,
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:what would you say
if you got stuck in Jamie Lee Curtis body?
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:Like,
I wanted to watch a movie of the bloopers
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:because they seem like they all loved each
other, like they cared for each other.
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:Sorry, I'm talking too much.
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:I want to be. Like.
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:No, no, I don't think you are.
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:And I feel like that brings up
a really good point.
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:Like there were
there were hints at deeper themes.
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:And that's
what was so disappointing about it
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:because like,
these are like, not, savvy kids, right?
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:Like, they're pretty savvy kids
and I don't I don't believe for a minute
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:that in the kid inhabiting
Jamie Lee Curtis
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:body is going to act the way
that that she did.
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:And, and like, it was obvious
they were having such a good time,
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:but they're also someone should have been
like, okay, this is great.
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:That's your take,
or we're going to do this.
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:But like, why don't you two get together
in another room
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:and talk about what it would be like,
what it's like to be in your body,
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:what it's like to be in their body,
and then.
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:And then we'll come up for something.
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:There was so much potential there.
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:There was so much potential.
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:And it was just like,
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:oh, I guess I'm going to crash
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:and I'm going to be happy
that I didn't break my leg.
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:And it's like, okay, that's fine.
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:But like what?
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:More like, what more can we. Truly.
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:What more can we say
about the aging process?
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:What more can we say
about about living another person's life?
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:Like all of that's really important stuff.
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:We shouldn't be going back to the early
aughts
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:beauty standards, but
some of the humor came from Lindsay Lohan
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:entering into a 40 year old Jamie
Lee Curtis as body and being like,
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:like one of the quotes
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:from the original or the original Lindsay
Lohan Jamie Lee Curtis free ready
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:as Lindsay Lohan goes into to,
I guess, like Anna goes into Tessa's body
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:and she looks in the mirror
very similar to what we see in this one.
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:And she's like, like looking at this
gorgeous 40 year old Jamie
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:Lee Curtis in space,
and she says, I look like the crib keeper.
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:And it's funny
because she's only 40, right?
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:So it's sort of
like is kind of a commentary on my kids
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:feel like you're 40 and you're dead
seeing that happen.
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:Like that
similar thing happened again to Jamie Lee.
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:But like as a much more as a much older,
a 20 year old or 22 year older woman
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:isn't as funny, you know, like it's
sort of it's not obviously untrue.
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:It's more like this woman is older.
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:It had it's a good conceit.
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:For any sequel that I've ever seen.
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:And this is the one that I should have
seen the originals beforehand.
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:The most.
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:It's funny because we do,
you know, we've done this thing.
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:I don't know what order
we're rolling these out in,
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:but we do this thing as a podcast trio
where we take scenes and we share them
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:because we think, like these scenes,
tell these amazing stories.
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:And what has been really interesting
is almost every time we've shared a scene
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:with each other, the other two
people hadn't seen the whole context,
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:but we can put together almost the
entire story because it's so well told.
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:Like, yeah, it was sort of like,
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:yeah, it it
it wasn't telling you a story in pictures
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:or like letting you know, I thought
I saw a lot like I could check boxes
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:of what I'd seen before, but it wasn't
telling me a story through pictures.
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:Yeah, I kind of was like, oh, man,
they're going to appreciate that 0%
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:because it's just an Easter egg hunt.
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:The real hardest part about making it
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:this is like getting the pieces together
and not actually.
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:It's like a hard production.
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:It's like you need to be
a top tier producer to make this work.
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:The casting, I mean, the casting.
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:That's why it's like
I could never really insult this movie.
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:The casting was top tier,
absolute top tier
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:casting, and everybody showed up
and took it seriously.
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:nobody felt like,
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:I don't know, like nobody who granted it,
you know, where they're sort of
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movie.
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:Like they're like, everybody was like 100%
committed and like, like taking it
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:I do believe Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay
Lohan have a love for each other,
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in something that meant something to them.
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:I think they took really good care
of the younger actors.
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:Like you said, Jaclynn.
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:Like everyone showed up and I found myself
getting weepy at the end.
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:Like, I found that to be very moving.
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:I did too, okay, I did too.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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:I found that to be incredibly moving.
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was that it didn't feel earned.
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:I'm like, you know, because I knew that
like everyone's seeing the world
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:from each other's perspective
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:and that there's going to be a moment
where they all sort of understand, like,
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:this person has a life
that I totally don't understand.
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:And the fact that the movie took
with Jamie Lee Curtis and the
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:and Sophia Hammonds
was that those two were in a lot of pain.
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:Like I did not see coming
that Jamie Lee Curtis
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:was really upset that she was going
to lose her daughter and granddaughter.
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:And it made absolute sense
when she when she said it.
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:And I also didn't understand,
like the amount of guilt
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:was holding from the loss of her mother
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:and putting those two people together
and those two actresses together.
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:The fact that the writers
and the directors got that or incorporated
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I thought was really emotionally astute.
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:I appreciated that they had this
like complex four body switch.
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:And to your point that they
they paired those two together
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:because if it was just the two daughters,
you're not going to get as deep.
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:But having those two was really something.
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:It got it got me in my little heart.
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:It did. It got me.
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:It felt like it was fantastic for when,
like the uncle went to save the day,
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:You know, you just you found.
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:That exact pathos button
and you pushed it and it worked.
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:And and the kids were so subtle and.
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:Tom. Strong like, like, really good work
and, like, I really enjoyed them.
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:So I mean, sorry, sorry, Brits.
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:Man in this film
is he's exactly what I want to look like.
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:I wish you were costumed in a V-neck
t shirts and to.
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:Look like you.
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:Guys.
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:Right now.
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:I'm constantly in a V-neck.
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:And if you've ever seen him on the street,
he's in a V-neck.
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:If you've ever seen Co.
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:Cole's uniform is a V-neck.
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for me of think.
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:The number one thing
I want to say about this is
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:and this
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:is, it's a question to what fantasy world
are we living in that all of the male
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:characters are loving, upstanding,
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:if it was written by a woman,
because if it was written by a woman,
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:like all of the men are like,
I love strong, confident women.
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:I'm I'm a good, perfect person.
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:And if it's written by a man,
it's like all of the women are like,
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:oh my God, I'm so dumb
and I'm in love with you.
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:Older man.
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:So it's like the romantic fantasy is
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:you can always tell like Bernardo,
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:it's like women dream of, like these kind,
loving men who like strong
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:females, like men
just love dumb ladies who worship them.
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for the most part.
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:So it's it's kind of it's.
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:Yeah, it'd be cool
if they cut them out completely.
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:Like,
the men are not incredibly present, like.
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:And then they're used to provoke
reactions, like,
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:I just kept wondering, like,
if you're seeing the TV
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:show The Americans,
have I mentioned this to you before?
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:The couple at the center of this have,
like a daughter and I think a son,
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:and they go out and they do these,
they go on these missions
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:at night in the middle of the night
and randomly and I were watching it.
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:I just kind of like, like,
who's babysitting these kids and,
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:you know, and what like, like like
who's like, are they leaving them home?
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:Are they like, do we need to call child
Protective Services
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:so that the more it went on,
the more I was like, I can't watch this.
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:Like, this is a this is like a major thing
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:that you're that you're proposing
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:and like you're supposed
to be parents and yet
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:part of parenting that doesn't.
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:Thing that got.
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:In my way a lot was it's like all of this
was obviously going to resolve itself,
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in their appropriate bodies.
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:And so for the four of them,
it was going to resolve.
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:But like there was so many real world
consequences, right.
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:Like, how are you going to explain away
all these weird things that had happened
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:over the course of however long it was
that, to me, got in my way like it was.
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:It was like how are you going
to explain to the fiancé,
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:like why she said those things?
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:If I was, like about to marry someone
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:and they started acting like my son, like,
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:I don't like, I feel like
that would have an impact on me.
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:And it's not like
it wasn't like Men in Black,
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:where they just had like, a little thing
where they go bloop and they like, erase
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:everybody's memory, like,
I almost think they need that.
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:Well, I didn't ever think of the Men
in Black Memory
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:Eraser as like an intelligent story point.
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:It's a.
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:Little tedious, but.
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:Necessary
in the way that you're explaining.
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:That's a very. Yeah.
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:I was only ever taken out one time
about caring about consequences.
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:Like I didn't
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:care about any of the consequences
that you're bringing up from the moment
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:when talking about
the thought about consequences was when
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:Jamie Lee Curtis, this character needed
a reason that they could get backstage
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:and feel like said, I've got these badges
we can get backstage.
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:Someone gave me these badges.
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:It's like, you know, I haven't cared about
a thing about consequences until now.
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:And now
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:I, I, I, I caught that too.
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:I was like not necessary.
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:Like,
yeah, it really and it really took me out.
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:I was. In shock. Okay.
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:Now you're.
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:Going to bring your patrol car.
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:On or someone clocked it and was like.
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:They wouldn't
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:they would never be backstage
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:without passes.
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:That's really funny.
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:Like,
the two kids don't know how to drive,
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:but they're in these, like, adult bodies
speeding through downtown LA.
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:Fine. Totally fine.
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:Bodies are being squished left and right.
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:Nobody's showing up to work on time.
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:Kids don't go to school.
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:Yeah, they're just like,
they don't know what classes are.
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:They don't know how to do it all. Fine.
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:All that's totally fine.
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:But how do they get backstage?
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:Actually, that's really good
because I want to talk about two scenes
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:in particular that made no sense to me,
and I didn't know why they were in there.
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:The thing with the backstage pass,
it was like a blip.
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:And then we just moved on.
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:And these were two major scenes,
the food fight scene.
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:Other than a reason to get them
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:suspended
or detention made no sense to me.
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:It was like, we need to get these
two people in the same detention.
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:Room before you even see the second scene,
I'm going to answer the question,
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:and we're just going to see if I'm right.
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:Okay.
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:The answer to what you're about to say
is nostalgia.
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:Oh, it is. And Easter egg.
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:But go on, like, okay, this entire movie,
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:wait for it
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:is free from Chekhov's gun.
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:What does it matter?
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:Usually I can barely keep
you away from my gun.
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:I cannot stop you from running around
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:and doing the pew pew pew pew.
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:This very.
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:What is the word?
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:Freaky to see you like this.
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:But they did this thing
with the engagement
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:between Lindsay
Lohan and, Manager Central, which was.
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:I thought of you, Jacqueline,
because it was like they meet each other.
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:They kind of like each other.
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:And then there's a montage
photos of them becoming closer and photos
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:with their kids becoming more involved
and not liking each other.
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:And it was like, 40s maybe.
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:And I was like, great.
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:I will say that
I don't just want a montage.
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:I'm not just a nonstop
proponent of montage.
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:Oh no, no, I did two
things are true, and one is exactly like,
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:we didn't have to go on all those dates,
but we still knew that they got close
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:and we got to see it. So to your point,
it's like they wrote it.
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:They knew it existed,
but then like, we didn't have to see it.
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:And in a female led movie, we didn't spend
a whole bunch of time on this dude.
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:I appreciated that a lot.
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:They flirted, we saw it,
and then we got to the beginning
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:of the movie
without him being like a major part of it.
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:And the reason I thought about you as well
was, was because, like, it
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:clearly defines everyone's relationships.
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:Yeah, the two daughters to each other,
the troublesome family dynamics.
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:For a few minutes in,
their relationships are strong enough that
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:I didn't need the freaky part of this
in any way whatsoever.
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:I would have watched this family
figure out
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:whether or not to move,
not to move, to stay together.
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:I would have liked that story as well.
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:One thing I wrote down was
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:the physicality of the actors, Jamie
Lee Curtis and Lindsay
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:Lohan when they were being inhabited
by children's bodies.
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:They looked like adult bodies
being inhabited by children's bodies,
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:which is tough to do.
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:They looked like their bodies
had been taken over by something else.
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:When they returned to their own bodies,
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:they felt like to adults
who were comfortable in their own bodies.
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:And I thought, I just thought
that was so impressive, I loved that.
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:I wonder how much of
it was the writing versus the acting.
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:It because they verbalized it
with the slouching,
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:of the young daughter
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:and like that slouched posture
versus stand up straight.
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:So it was weaved in the entire time,
which I was also very impressed with.
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:As much as it's not like a quote unquote
great movie, it's a very impressive movie.
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:It kind of made me wonder,
like the way that those two walked
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:was just like so loopy
and so and so goofy.
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:I began to wonder, why didn't Jamie
Lee Curtis have an accent?
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:And what
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:what part of a person's
body is controlled by?
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:What part of that or what
facet of their personality?
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:If this were a science fiction
film, we'd have a wildly different answer
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:to your question of what
part is controlled by what other parts.
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:Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
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:Nobody use British words, I don't think.
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:And I think that gets back to our whole
like we have backstage passes.
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:It's like, why now? Like why?
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:Why are we now
worried how this world works.
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:So we have not
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:that is the agreement has been
this world doesn't work and we're all in.
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:So like
please don't put rules in now as a writer,
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:I will say it's freeing to watch stuff
like this.
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:I can limit myself
so much to creating anything
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:because I'm so worried
like it's not going to fall apart.
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:And Cole has actually,
523
:you've actually given me that note, like
I think more than once where you're like,
524
:stop worrying about how the world works
525
:and just let it go, because I was like,
but how would they?
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:And then
how do you think it actually funds itself?
527
:It's like, it doesn't matter.
528
:Like you're writing a spy comedy.
529
:Just let them go be spy. It's like. Yeah.
530
:It could be a really interesting sci
fi movie.
531
:Like, what is your body?
What is your soul? What?
532
:Yeah.
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:Like who really are we
and who are what isn't us.
534
:And this same conundrum is why I couldn't
deal with watching for things.
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:The plot of that, to me, is just,
oh, we're raising a child
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:for 90 minutes straight.
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:This mind is in a different body.
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:What does it control and not control?
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:Question not answered.
540
:Yeah, I felt I never watched it,
so I can't really say
541
:because I can't truly judge something,
but that deeply unsettled me.
542
:And I have never watched the movie
543
:because I just felt like
I would not be able to handle it.
544
:And same with, Palm Springs.
545
:Like that was another one
where it gets like morally and passengers.
546
:It gets like morally ambiguous
of like who's in what body
547
:and when and like, what consent
does that bring with it?
548
:And yeah.
549
:You started me on realizing
that conundrum with passengers.
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:And if you hadn't said it
551
:prior to that, it would have had wouldn't
have seen it in Palm Springs.
552
:But now I can't watch Palm Springs.
553
:Which movie is Palm Springs?
554
:Is that the one with them? In December?
555
:Yeah. And Chris oh.
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:Yeah, it's a good it's a great movie
but it does it,
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:it has some like moral questions of like
558
:how much consent does she have?
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:When do you embody and what don't you.
560
:And like what is consent.
561
:And if you know so much more
and she doesn't
562
:and like in passengers he wakes her up
knowing that like it will kill her.
563
:Right.
564
:And like because like she doesn't know
he wakes her up.
565
:Right.
566
:We can have female led comedies
and they can be successful.
567
:And I would like to remind
every movie studio
568
:that they should cast
Jamie Lee Curtis in everything.
569
:Because when has she ever gone wrong?
570
:So, Robbie.
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:For a movie that frequently drove me
a little bit crazy and in, in the sense
572
:making the scheme and
it was a very enjoyable couple of hours
573
:and it actually made me want to see the
movie that it was based off,
574
:to find out,
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:like as a, as an exercise
in figuring out what I missed.
576
:Call.
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:Is there anything else
that you need from us?
578
:Were there questions you wanted to ask us?
579
:Were there we have to do
your favorite lines or your A reveal.
580
:What do you want?
581
:I would like your reveal first because
if we stop, we can't get that again.
582
:Cole, did you notice
there was something for you in this film?
583
:Is specific to your own likes and specific
to a playlist you gave me this year.
584
:I'm so excited.
585
:Okay, so from your boutique 16
bit bullshit playlist,
586
:which also required me to watch Gay otic,
which also inspired this podcast.
587
:Did I miss a moon a thing?
588
:Yes, they. Were in it.
589
:They're in it in freaky.
They're the. Band.
590
:Like they're the upcoming
pop stars backup band.
591
:What? Yeah.
592
:Dead dead.
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:Deceased.
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:Dying.
595
:I might go see this again. Oh.
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:Muna muna.
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:Yeah.
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:And so, like, they I one of their shows,
they dressed up as Pink Slip.
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:So the band is pink slip.
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:They had a Halloween show.
601
:They dressed up like pink slip
and played the final song.
602
:Right?
603
:Like at one of their shows,
the Take Me Away song.
604
:And so then they got them for the movie,
and they play that song again.
605
:Like blew my mind, blew my mind.
606
:Dead, dead, deceased or dying.
607
:You. You've sent me there
like visual podcast.
608
:Man, I know.
609
:This is a very mean, amazing reveal.
610
:Jacqueline I know.
611
:I know,
I don't mean to be, like, overly earnest,
612
:but I don't think I've said it to you.
613
:I've told some other people
that, I know a place like, really,
614
:like, really unlocked something for me.
615
:Wow. You have.
616
:But, Mona.
617
:Yeah. You in a ruby?
618
:And then the song that, like,
619
:was like a key to a thing
I couldn't see is called I Know a Place.
620
:It has this, like line that says you think
621
:being yourself means being unworthy.
622
:Oh, it like it really got me.
623
:It like, has really like.
624
:It is like,
honestly what changed my life this year
625
:because I realize I've spent
like so many years working on, like,
626
:accepting myself and like my shadow side
and integrating all this stuff
627
:and that I had like,
kind of like accepted myself for who I am.
628
:But but like that, believing
that being myself
629
:like that,
I had to accept myself is just unworthy.
630
:Like it's like, oh, I'm just less than,
but I'm okay with that.
631
:And I didn't recognize it until that line.
632
:Because.
633
:We have got to get out of here.
634
:I acknowledge that there's a lot going on.
635
:Seems like a good time
to do favorite lines.
636
:Oh, I love being outsmarted by tall
637
:flightless birds, either. Oh.
638
:But we got dressed up.
639
:I mean,
640
:we're in pleated periwinkle safari shorts.
641
:Cool. Yeah.
642
:How bout if we just go ahead and.
643
:Do favorite lines?
644
:All right, all right.
645
:You finished? Whoa!
646
:Jacqueline, comb!
647
:I think it would behoove us
648
:to move on to favorite lines
649
:immediately.
650
:Who pissed off the bird?
651
:And why was it called?
652
:By naked ostrich.
653
:Oh, no.
654
:You were great.
655
:How do you say them now?
656
:I'm saying them.
657
:Great. Now.
658
:If you're me and I'm you.
659
:And who's that?
660
:If you're me and I'm you,
then who is that?
661
:If you're me, then I'm you.
Then who is that?
662
:If you're me and I'm you, who is that?
663
:If you're me and I'm you,
then who is that?
664
:If you're me and I am you.
665
:And then who is that?
666
:If you're me and I'm you,
then who the fuck is that?
667
:If you're me and you, then who is that?
668
:You're me. And I'm you.
669
:Then who is that? You. Me?
670
:Oh, please.
671
:You know me.
672
:Who was you?
673
:You're me.
674
:And only you.
675
:Then who is last is your me,
676
:man. You. You.
677
:It's man.
678
:I'm grandma.
679
:Sweetheart.
680
:Mine is make good choices.
681
:Which is absolutely a callback
from the first movie.
682
:And something I have said for the last,
like, whatever, 20 plus years.
683
:I've said it to both of you, I promise,
like, it's usually what I say, but I.
684
:I definitely didn't know
that this entire time.
685
:Make it choices. Cool.
686
:Favorite lines.
687
:So many elevated genre
they're doing a palm reading
688
:or a tarot card reading in Starbucks
with one of the Starbucks employees,
689
:and they're asking about if their
screenwriting career is going to take off.
690
:And they say
you need to start writing a genre, and he.
691
:Asks you to. Elevate the genre.
692
:And she's like, no. And he does.
693
:That's very funny.
694
:That's no,
695
:it's in L.A.
696
:At a Starbucks like I've ever done.
697
:Yeah.
698
:And then it's favorite,
699
:favorite line
was when the kids had to sit next
700
:to each other in the backseat of the car,
701
:and one really didn't
want to sit next to the other.
702
:But the British ish one
703
:said, I love sitting next to you.
704
:It reminds me I'm amazing. I,
705
:That was great actually.
706
:I hope that I remember that
and use that at some point.
707
:That was great.
708
:I liked, three.
709
:I haven't adjusted like this in decades
710
:because it was a pretty good one.
711
:Somebody at some point says
you can't have
712
:a wrong opinion,
which I also really liked.
713
:I disagree with that one.
714
:Yeah, I they oh yeah. Yeah.
715
:But I don't know that I would agree
with that in all things.
716
:But I like doing
the context of this movie.
717
:And then I think it was Jamie
Lee Curtis said, I miss England.
718
:It was very touching to me.
719
:It was very moving, very simple.
720
:But you kind of know what's behind it.
721
:You know why it's being said?
722
:It's touching and.
723
:It was really nice because it what,
724
:what it said was I miss my mom
and I don't know how to grieve.
725
:It was such a simple three words,
but it's what it said was,
726
:I miss my mom.